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lock
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Date Joined Jul 2004
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| Posted 11/4/2004 7:41 AM (GMT -6) |   | The following was posted in another discussion...
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LOCK-I believe that man does have choice and a will, but I do not believe that our will is a free as the OT'ers believe. I side with the bible in that we are either a slave to sin or a slave to righteousness. Our choices will be directly influnced by our disposition. If we are lead by the flesh and its desires, then our choices will reflect this and lead to sin. If we are lead by the spirit of God, we will prefer the things of God, and our choices along with the fruit produced will reflect this. I agree with Jo-Anne that there is no coersion involved, instead when we are saved by the grace of God and lead by His spirit, we will naturally prefer the things of God.
EEYORE-If He saves us against our will, it is coercion.
I was never implying that we are saved against our will. What does the bible say about our "will"? In Romans 7:22 according to the NASB Paul states that he "joyfully concurs with the law of God in the inner man". The teaching of Romans 7 is that our "will" desires (that's for you John!) to keep the law of God but is unable due to the flesh (where sin makes its home). Romans 2:14, 15 tells us that even though the gentiles do not have the law of God, "BY NATURE may be doing what the law demands, these, having no law, ARE A LAW TO THEMSELVES, WHO ARE DISPLAYING THE ACTION OF THE LAW WRITTEN IN THEIR HEARTS, THEIR CONSCIENCE TESTIFYING TOGETHER..."
We were created with a will that desires to keep the law of God (written in our conscience). Our "will" desires to keep the law, but we observe "a different law in our members, warring with the law of our mind and leading me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members."
The evil that comes forth out of our hearts is the fruit of being lead by the law within our members which wars against the law of our mind.
Can a person really be saved against his/her will? If man and his will has been created with the very law of God written in his conscience, is it not set free from the law of sin and death upon being saved? How is this coersion? Is this not true freedom?
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